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re: solar air collectors? do they work? buy or make?
26 oct 2004
stuart gold  wrote:

>i have converted my garage to an art studio.

say it's 16'x24'x8' tall, with a long south wall. 

>after insulating the walls and ceiling...

how much? g = 1024/r btu/h-f.

>...i'm located in the foothills of the california sierra mts...

an easy climate. nrel says santa maria has 1390 btu/ft^2 of sun on
a south wall on an average 51.1 f january day, when your studio might
need 8h(65-51.1)g = 114k/r btu of heat.

>...right on the top of a ridge with a solid straight on southern exposure.

no shading... :-)

>i am have been thinking about using solar air heating...

how about thermosyphoning air panels on the south wall warming low-e
ceiling mass and a slow ceiling fan controlled by an occupancy sensor
and a room temp thermostat?

>1. will a solar collector supply most if not all the heat that i will need?

sure, if designed to do that. you need about 570k/r btu for 5 cloudy days...

>2. will i save any money if i build versus buy... ? looking
>mostly at the cleardome system ( http://www.cleardomesolar.com/ )

gary spent $2/ft^2. cleardome charges $895/(2'x8') = $55.94/ft^2.

then again, they are still selling indoor solar collectors :-)

help@prepusa.net wrote:

>check out www.hotboxsolar.com 

wow, only $399/(2'x4') = $49.88/ft^2 :-)

>they sell a reasonably priced air heater...

looks like "they" is "you" :-)
 
>3. if i do decide to build, is glass or polycarbonate best for the top? =

i'd use a single layer of "dynaglas" corrugated polycarbonate.
this greenhouse roofing material comes in 4' wide sheets. 
flat polycarbonate comes in 4'-wide rolls.
 
>4. for the adsorber plate tin is much cheaper than copper. what
>materials off the best bang for the buck?

your brown shingles behind a single layer of black window screen.

>5. many of the pre-built units have thermo switches that start a fan =
>when the air reaches 100 degrees.

grainger sells them, but i'd thermosyphon.

>...4' x 8' would be about the maximum size that i would want.

then again, you want 100% solar heating. you might have room for 4
4x8s among the windows. if 1 ft^2 collects 0.9x1390 = 1251 btu and
loses 6h(130-51.1)1ft^2/r1 = 473, the net gain is 778. there's a
tradeoff between polycarb ($1/ft^2), insulation ($0.34/ft^2 for "r7.2"
1" double-foil polyiso board) and ceiling mass ($5/4"x10' 55 btu/f
thinwall pvc pipe.)

if each of n $50 4x8 collectors can make 24.9k btu/day, the studio needs
r = 114k/(24.9kn) insulation and p = 570k/((130-80)55) ceiling heat store
pipes for cloudy days. if pipes cost $5 each and covering 1024 ft^2 of walls
and ceiling with r-value r insulation costs $0.34x1024r/7.2...

n   cc    r     cr    p    cp    total cost

1   50    4.58  221   45   225   $496
2  100    2.29  111   91   455    666
3  150    1.53   74  135   675    899
4  200    1.14   55  182   910   1165.

if the ceiling is 16'x24' of poly film ducts ($40) containing up to
5" of water over mylar film ($40) over welded wire fence ($40)...

n   cc    r     cr    cp    total cost

1   50    4.58  221   120   $391
2  100    2.29  111   120    331
3  150    1.53   74   120    344
4  200    1.14   55   120    375.

nick




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