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re: lift a weight (5kg) with the energy from a candel
31 jul 1998
eur van andel  wrote:

>>let's say we don't use levers, and the balloon material weighs 10 grams
>>per square meter, and it has a thermal conductance of 5 w/m^2c, and the
>>candle makes 50 watts and weighs 500 grams, and the 20 c air in the room
>>weighs 1.2 kg per cubic meter... 

>let's take round balloon, radius r, air temp in balloon t. 
>
>surface of balloon 	4 pi r^2
>contents of balloon 	4/3 pi r^3
>weight of balloon 	9.81*0.04 pi r^2  

why 9.81, i wonder...

>power to heat balloon	4 pi r^2 *5 * (t-20)

i think the idea was to use only one candle... just 50 watts.

>so, to lift 5 kg:
>
>9.81*(5+0.04 pi r^2)=4/3 pi r^3 (1.2-ro_t)

or maybe just 

5+0.5+0.04 pi r^2  = 4/3 pi r^3 (1.2-ro_t), 

including the weight of the candle.

>oops. excel to the rescue... so: a 7.16 m diameter balloon, with 16 candles.

with only 1 candle, it seems to me the answer is "it can't be done." the
optimum balloon diameter is about 6.6 m, with a lift/weight of about 0.2.

now how about those solar versions?

nick

hint: bill sturm @ specialty cea structures inc. in calgary alberta canada
(403) 274-8800 now has a 12,000 sf greenhouse that uses soap bubbles as the
insulation/shading method, and they are building a 120,000 sf greenhouse...




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