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re: water-wall greenhouses 10 nov 1998 i wrote: >with an extra layer of glazing over the water wall, we might have something >like this electrical analog: > > tg = 71.6 (initially) > | > r1.2/25ft^2 | r1.7/16ft^2 > 30 f --------www---------------www------------tw = 122.3 (initially) > exterior glazing ww glazing | > resistance resistance --- c = 2x16x64 > = 0.048 = 0.104 --- = 2048 btu/f > \________ r = 0.152 ______/ | > - > >rc = 0.152 f-h/btu x 2048 btu/f = 311 hours for the water, so after 5 >cloudy days we might have tw = 30+(122.3-30)exp(-120/311) = 92.8 f, with >a heatflow through the wall glazing of (92.8-30)/0.152 = 413 btu/h and a >greenhouse air temperature tg = 30+413x0.048 = 50 f. still too cold. we might let air flow under the wall insulation and glazing on that fifth 30 f cloudy day, making the total water wall thermal resistance something like r0.67/32ft^2 = 0.021, the wall's heatflow (98.2-30)/0.069 = 991 btu/h and the greenhouse air temperature 30+991x0.048 = 77.6... >...a less-wasteful scheme with a lot less thermal mass might have >bubbles partially filling the waterwall glazing cavity on cloudy days. this "series regulated thermal power supply" might use 5 times less mass, only 2 4x8' 2-ton water wall modules for the entire 32x16x16' curved greenhouse, which requires about 5dx24h(70f-30f)800ft^2/r20 = 192k btu of heat over 5 30 f cloudy days, with bubble-filled glazing and perfectly- insulating north and endwalls. the final water temperature might be 122f-192kbtu/8,000btu/f = 98 f. each module could have a thermal resistance of about r0.67/120ft^2 with internal airflow, 0.0028 f-h/btu for two, if surrounded by an insulating skirt with a hinged top raised by a passive thermofor vent opener (eg jade mountain's $54 fc115 "classic," which can move 15 pounds 15" at an adjustable temperature between 55 and 85 f.) on a very cold -10 f day, after 5 cloudy days in a row, with 0.025 f-h/btu of bubble-filled house glazing resistance, the wall's heatflow would be (98f-(-10))/0.0278 = 3.9k btu/h and the greenhouse temperature could be -10+3.9k(0.025) = 87 f. nick |