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re: need advice on swimming pool solar heater 26 mar 1999 jpbtkb@aol.com wrote: >i live in virginia and am trying to decide if a solar pool heater would >work in our climate. we open the pool in mid may and close in mid sept. >we would like to get another month on each side and even in the summer, >the water is relatively cool and uncomfortable. why settle for another month? sterling is the most difficult place for solar pool heating of nrel's 5 va cities (lynchburg, norfolk, richmond, roanoke, and sterling), and the worst-case month is december, with a long-term average daily air temperature of 35.4 f and an average daily max of 45.0. the average amount of solar heat that falls on a horizontal surface is 580 btu/ft^2 per day. suppose we start with a $100 10' diameter x 4' tall circular pool set on 1" styrofoam board on the ground inside a geodesic docecahedron (this requires imagination, a possible problem for andy m.) made with 25 $3 10'x2" pvc pipes. cut 55 50 cent 6" galvanized metal straps with holes in them, drill a hole in each pipe a few inches from the end, bolt a strap inside each end of each pipe with a protruding tab, then use one more bolt to connect groups of 5 tabs together (with one bolted through the tread of a tire filled with dirt on the ground) to make 11 hubs in a structure like the one in my yard that's 17' o.d. and 13' tall, with 15 triangular sides. let's cover this pretty gazebo frame (rudolf steiner considered this shape sacred) with clear plastic film, using some pipes ripped in thirds with sheet metal screws for cap strips, and paint the northerly triangles white to reflect more winter sun down into the pool, and add a plywood deck and stuff bags of dry leaves under the deck between the pool wall and the lower plastic film sides of the enclosure. the flat pentagon on the ground can be inscribed with a 13.7' circle, leaving 22" min for sidewall pool insulation, perhaps us r44, using dry leaves in bags. the two southerly sides of that pentagon might have some dark painted steps leading up to the deck, with bags of leaves under the steps, so the winter sun warms the air more in the enclosure to enhance human comfort and reduce the heat loss from the pool when collecting sun. we might cover the pool with a 12' diameter uv poly film pillow, sealed around the edges with a couple of cap strips above and below a 2" pvc ring pipe with some 1/2" holes around the inside. the pillow would be inflated to about 0.25" h20 during the day to a maximum thickness of about 2'. at night and on cloudy days it would be filled with tiny soap bubbles that come from a 4' pvc pipe ring with 1/16' holes in the bottom that sits in about 4 gallons of 2% firefighting foam solution on the bottom of the pillow. tiny cold bubbles are almost as good as fiberglass insulation, so this cover might give r36 insulation with an average foam depth of about one foot. the bubble pipe ring would connect through the outer pipe with 4' of 1.5" flexible tubing that slides through a 4-way cross coupling in the outer pipe and then connect to the pressure side of a shop vac. this tubing would also contain a small tube for carrying liquid, which runs from the bottom side of the bubble ring pipe to a couple of small pumps which connect via bulkhead barbs to the shop vac sump. the vacuum hose of the shop vac would connect to the outer ring pipe, and it would have a small adjustable opening to ensure that the pillow is pressurized. to fill the pillow with bubbles, pump the soap solution from the shop vac into the pillow. to remove the bubbles, pump the soap solution back into the shop vac. the pillow needs a pressure control (eg a microswitch with a tubing film feeler attached to the ring pipe) and a foam level sensor (a photocontrol in the shop vac return hose) that turn on the shop vac when the pillow needs more pressure or foam. to swim, we might lift the (30 pound?) cover up into the roof pent via 3 ropes that connect to the ring pipe and join another vertical rope above that runs through a pulley under the peak of the gazebo and down through another pulley at a roof corner to a counterweight with a handle. how hot can we make the pool in december, if there's only occasional swimming? the sidewall has a thermal conductance of about 126ft^2/r44 = 3 btu/h-f, and the top has a conductance of about 78ft^2/r36 = 2 when filled with foam and 78ft^2/r1 = 78 when filled with air. it might transmit 90% of the sun that falls on it, 0.9x0.9x78x580 = 37k btu/day, and we might not lose much heat to the ground. if the solar energy that flows into the pool equals the heat energy that flows out, over an average 6 hour solar collection day in december, when the average outdoor temperature is 40 f, 37k = 6h(t-40)78 + 18h(t-40)2 + 24h(t-40)3 = 576(t-40), so t = 40+37k/576 = 104.2 f, not counting the extra solar reflections or the fact that the air is warmed by additional solar absorbing surfaces inside the enclosure when the sun is shining. this might make a nice hot tub, or an interesting $500 24' circular pool under a 34' dodecahedron made with 20' pipes, with a winch to raise the cover. greenhouse poly film comes in folded rolls up to 40' wide. nick |