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re: frugal storm shelters?
4 may 2000
sojourner's chinchilla climbed the computer table,
ran across the keyboard and apparently accidently hit keys that wrote:
>another rube goldberg contraption from the king of half-baked engineering.
oh, i'm pretty full-baked, with bachelors and masters degrees and
34 years of engineering experience :-) how many engineering degrees
and years do you have? you talk about engineering, but do you know
anything about engineering? can you calculate how much distributed
weight a 12' 2x4 can support? that's quite simple to do...
>> reinforced concrete or cement construction means liitle
>> to a grain combine going 300 miles an hour.
we have to draw the line somewhere, eg some windspeed, and design
a structure to withstand it. should it also withstand a direct hit
from a hydrogen bomb? such a structure can be designed (by engineers),
but is it worth it?
>> >> you cannot tie 55 gallon drums to such a structure well enough
>> >> to be sure they'll still be there through a tornado.
>> > 'pends on the tornado, no?
>no.
bullshit.
perhaps you belong to the george ghio school of tornadoproofing :-)
>> > ...berming is different from burying. a lot less work.
>> > "buried" things don't stick 5' out of the ground.
>if its only going to stick 5' out of the ground then its either
>partially dug in to the ground or its too small to start with. if its
>bermed 3' on all sides, set at ground level, and only 5' sticks up in
>the air, then you only have a 2' cavity to crawl into.
nope. the tank i described was 5' deep, and sitting on top of some
3' tall drums on the ground, with a 3' earth berm around them.
>if you're going to have the equipment out there that you need anyway to
>place the tank,
that would be a truck with a hoist.
>and then to pile the dirt up...
that would be a shovel...
nick
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